| Joel
October 8, '08 at 5:12 pm I like what you believe Quina and I think it's cool that you want to share it with others. |
| Lara
October 12, '08 at 7:57 pm You go girl! :) |
| Cat
October 14, '08 at 12:11 pm Believing what you want to believe is fine, spamming the entire USF campus is not. The tactics you're using to get people to this site are reminiscent of the "everyusfbull.com" ploy last year, and it's almost shameful. Sure, put your site out there if you think people will care, but don't do it in a relentless guerrilla fashion; say what it is so people don't wind up feeling like they've been tricked by you. |
| playah8r
October 14, '08 at 11:10 pm I disagree with Quiana. While religion has provided some social order, it has led to the destruction of society and overall done more harm than good to the human race. |
| Matt
October 14, '08 at 11:21 pm Well I'm glad Quina is advocating the reason behind most major wars in the world. This is a waste of everyones time stop pushing your Christian beliefs on everyone. It is not your duty to save the planet and offer everyone "salvation". Go work for a charity and do some real good on this earth. www.habitat.org -- Habitat for humanity, if god was as "benevolent" as the bible states there would be no need for organizations such as Habitat. Go spend your weekend working for someone other than your god. And stop spamming my campus. |
| Danny
October 15, '08 at 12:30 am Matt, I understand your concern, but what would be our point on earth if God didn't let us have free will? Would you enjoy life if God forced you to do everything you did? God is benevolent, but he's also not going to make anybody do anything. That's the point of christianity: doing things for God because we want to, not because we have to. |
| playah8r
October 15, '08 at 7:17 am The point of Christianity was to keep the masses bound by laws set forth by the wealthy Roman politicians and religious leaders. Society was perfectly fine under pagan rule and in my opinion, if not for Christianity we would have a better understanding of how the universe operates and our relation to the grand scheme of things, if not for the plague of Christianity opressing science and reason for so long. Modern Christianity is completely contrary to the original message of Christ, so chances are if you believe in "Hell," you're probably going. |
| I don't agree with Quina
October 15, '08 at 3:19 pm I disagree with Quina. Who are you to imply your religion is superior to others? I cannot believe the audacity of you and the organizations that support you. |
| Chris
October 15, '08 at 11:03 pm Historian Richard Frothingham recognized the impact differing religions's views of man had on the establishment of civil bodies. Referring to the prevailing pagan world view which existed during the rise of Christianity, he observed: At that time, social order rested on the assumed natural inequality of men. The individual was regarded as of value only as he formed a part of the political fabric, and was able to contribute to its uses, as though it were the end of his being to aggrandize the State. This was the pagan idea of man. The wisest philosophers of antiquity could not rise above it. Its influence imbued the pagan world; . . . especially the idea that man was made for the State, the office of which, or of a divine right vested in one, or in a privileged few, was to fashion the thought and control the action of the many. . . Christianity then appeared with its central doctrine, that man was created in the Divine image, and destined for immortality; pronouncing that, in the eye of God, all men are equal. This asserted for the individual an independent value. |
| anonymous
October 16, '08 at 12:38 am I would just like to point out that if you go on this website and you look at the events and read the description of the event, this is what it says: "Want to dialouge more about what Quina believes? Come find one of our table's around campus to talk with students who agree with Quina." If you read around on this site, you would gather the impression that she is a strong follower of the Christian faith and that that is what she is trying to promote, however every single thing has been about promoting HERSELF and not the religion. I'm no expert, but I believe the bible says things against being vain and prideful... just a thought. |
| John
October 16, '08 at 12:41 am ok seriously, this is a serious site and stop posting non-sense stuff... |
| alex
October 16, '08 at 1:53 am this site is not worth my time. thanks for spamming the entire campus. |
| playah8r
October 16, '08 at 9:20 am Man is not "created" equal, we are shaped by our family history and personal experiences. It is what we make of ourselves, not some divine order, that determines our place in the social order. |
| LGbraves
October 16, '08 at 10:41 am Hey, I agree with Quina and I think free speach is a good think. If nothing else this web site has given people a chance to express themselves. |
| Angel
October 16, '08 at 3:02 pm Great Idea! Curiosity has shared the word. |
| playah8r
October 17, '08 at 12:23 am Stunts like this further divide those who believe and those who don't. Seriously. I mean, most atheists dont go around saying "HEY DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD" and hold rallies and ****. |
| J
October 17, '08 at 2:25 pm I'm fine with your website, but I think it's a little frustraing that you would advertise it all over the USF campus...it makes our school look messy and unprofessional. If you want to promote your page, find a more mature way of doing it. |
| danny
October 17, '08 at 2:42 pm To J, Chalking on sidewalks is something that nearly every organization does for nearly all major events. The only difference is that this is a christian ministry and since much of usf are not christians, it bothers them. But it never bothers them to see any other kind of chalking. |
| Brian
October 18, '08 at 3:54 am I agree with many people on this page who have said that throughout history, masses of people have been harmed by religion. This harm has occurred historically because the selfish goals of man have taken precedence over the will of God. For instance the crusades, and the conquest of the "new world" among other notable "black stains" on Christianity, have been the result of self promoting men who have distorted the bible and preyed on the uneducated. With the exposure of the corruption in the Catholic Church in the 16th century by Martin Luther (i.e. indulgences-the selling of forgiveness of one's sins for money; the absence of the preaching of grace- the church preached a contrary message to the bible saying that man must work for God's favor and salvation) and the Guttenberg printing press, allowing many to read the Bible for themselves, men were no longer forced to base their views of God on what a priest or clergy man said, instead they could read what God laid out for them in the Bible. However, upon reading Quina's story under the "Who is Quina?" tab, It is clear that Quina is not advocating religion but a relationship with a Creator who set things straight through the sacrifice of his son Jesus for all men. |
| Gabby
October 18, '08 at 12:10 pm First off I love what ur trying to do here quina it's amazing how god is working in you and U.S.F but I'm just astonished at how some of your classmates are writing....DO THEY NOT HAVE FEAR OF THE GOD THAT CREATED THEM? it's sad because all jesus wants to do is love them and they're hurtfully rejecting him and Believing that this is just like any other religion that is used for war you don't know how ignorant that sounds to me. I JUST PRAY THAT GOD HAS MERCY ON THEIR SOULS. |
| Taking Up My Cross Daily
October 18, '08 at 2:25 pm Stay encouraged Quina... God is getting the glory out of this whether you see it or not. Do not be moved by those who attack you and try to lessen the glorious cross of Christ. Be steadfast and bold. "7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God, 9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, 10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, 11 to which I was appointed a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles. 12 For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day." -2 Timothy 1: 7-12 ..................................... "You must submit to supreme suffering in order to discover the completion of joy." -John Calvin Keep allowing God to use you. |
| His Eternally
October 18, '08 at 5:04 pm Hey Friend, I am absolute amazed at the response of others, but I continue to think of those who have gone before us like Peter who after being persecuted walked away rejoicing for being counted worthy to suffer for the gospel and even Stephen who was described as one that was full of God's grace and prayed for those who opposed the message he was called to preach. Dear friend, consider it an honor to endure this way. Love you...Praying for you. |
| Skylar
October 18, '08 at 8:15 pm Quina, I don't know you personally, but I admire you so much for what you are doing for God's kingdom and this campus. God is using you to reach out to so many people who desperately need Him, and the reward is going to be worth enduring all the opposition. I encourage you to keep your chin up, because I know I have been getting very discouraged with people who just want to bring you and all the rest of us down. I was reminded of a verse the other day that made me feel so uplifted and encouraged: Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go. Joshua 1:9 Just remember we are all praying for you and this campaign. I know the outcome will be amazing! Much love! :] |
| Becca
October 19, '08 at 5:51 pm This is a great campaign. It's such a good way to get people talking about the Lord. Thanks for doing this, Quina. :) |
| Chelsea
October 19, '08 at 10:29 pm I have no problem with what you believe, but it kind of annoys me that for a good week or two I've been wondering who Quina is and why I should agree with her, and when FINALLY I find out, it turns out to be some religious thing. People know about Christ and all that, you don't need to go telling them. If they truly want Him to be a part of their lives, they'll seek Him out, like you did. You don't have to bother the people who don't care. |
| Anonymous1
October 19, '08 at 11:25 pm It's not the chalking that's annoying, and it's not the theory or belief behind the Quina campaign.. it's the fact that you are falsely leading people to this site by chalking unclear advertisments everywhere. When someone logs in, it should be because they have chosen to look for support in their relationship with God, NOT because they were tricked into thinking that "Quina" was someone special. This is a promotion for yourself, not for a religion, and not for a belief. You should be ashamed. Just lik we are to have your name mucking up our sidewalks and campus. |
| Alex T.
October 20, '08 at 2:00 am Hey Quina, I think what you're doing is wonderful.It takes a great deal of courage,strength,and wisdom to do what you're doing.I think you're a great person and I was truely inspired to reflect on my own decisions.Even though there are many who will go against you, just remember God will always be by your side. |
| andrew
October 20, '08 at 11:22 am I don't exactly understand why people are angry when they come to this site to find out it is about God and not about getting drunk or something Bull's fan related, being "tricked" into coming to a website? would all the people angry at this website be pissed if it were offering "a chance to win a free car!" this is set up to save people not to bring you down. |
| Brittany
October 20, '08 at 12:40 pm So im going to have to say that i agree with the many who are not so pleased with this. while i would never go around writing mean things like "quina eats small children" or "would you agree with hitler?" as i have seen around campus, i do feel like this has gotten out of control. maybe a few chalkings on campus and a little explanation underneath it would be cool, but i honestly think you have taken it out of hand. you know the majority of the people think your beliefs are a little too serious and it actually does make people angry. why try and start all this drama? i sort of feel like were in high school again with all of this little kid drama. maybe keep your beliefs to yourself a little more and everyone else would probably accept this campaign thing much more. just chill out a little, its getting ridiculous. your beliefs are cool and all if they work for you, but if people are good overall for the most part, they will go to heaven or what ever they believe in. your not gonna go to hell just because your not the freakin pope or something. people are good, and your not as good of a person for thinking that they aren't. just calm down, believe what you believe, but dont force it on people. just think about how you would feel if someone cam up to you and tried to force their creepy satan worshiping beliefs on you... |
| Sarah
October 20, '08 at 12:41 pm I think this site is a way to get conversations going, not to promote one person. And it is obviously working so I think that is cool. As for chalking the campus, it is not the first time. it is actually quite common so i dont see how its that big of a deal. |
| Stephanie
October 20, '08 at 2:03 pm If this was about Christianity then why is the name Quina spammed all over the sidewalks? No one even knows what that means, you walk by and think, "What is Quina?" I only found out today when someone gave me a pamphlet. I'm tired of Christians force-feeding their beliefs onto others. If someone is interested in Christianity they should find the answers for themselves, not from some random person that thinks their beliefs are superior. (And yeah, random, is this person a student? Who are they?) |
| Jennifer
October 20, '08 at 2:08 pm It is about time! I know people have been praying, and I have been too. Saying the word Christian is a taboo, and if you say Jesus, people are being "imposed" on... its funny how drug, sex and money are okay to talk about but as soon as you mention Jesus and love everyone goes crazy. If it wasn't that serious, why get mad about it? Why even think about it? |
| William
October 20, '08 at 2:30 pm You really need to stop proselytizing your evangelical nonsense and defacing USF's campus. By the way, in your "Who is Quina?" section, you seem to think you're making a point by asking why you aren't satisfied with this world and then answering your own question. I can answer your question more accurately. The reason we aren't satisfied isn't because we were made for something more. The reason we aren't satisfied is because we weren't made to be satisfied. Don't be so full of yourself to think that the point of this world is to satisfy you. |
| Niki
October 20, '08 at 2:36 pm Quina, I think what you are doing is absolutely beautiful. You have encouraged me so much. Don't let these negative comments get you down. The fact that they took the time to write anything at all still proves the fact that you have influence. Don't forget that your reward is in Heaven and there is no greater satisfaction than pleasing the heart of God. Continue to stay the strong and courageous woman that you are. :) |
| M.A.
October 20, '08 at 2:42 pm "Faith comes from hearing and hearing by the Word of Christ." (Romans 10:17) Quina thank you for sharing your faith and your testimony with boldness and in love. I once would have been upset and angry over your campaign, but through God'd loving kindness and the the miracle that repentance is, I chose to turn my life over to Christ! Remember Paul and how he persecuted Christians as Saul, but God supernaturally touched and changed his life and he wrote most of the New Testament! Anway, you are sowing a lot of great seed, and yes this is a unique way to get the Word out, but you're doing it, your sharing your faith and somebody's life will be eternally changed!!! |
| Justin
October 20, '08 at 2:53 pm Hey Quina, I saw your spot in today's paper and was just checking the site. FYI, on the "what Quina believes" portion of the site, I think you made an error with a Scripture. Under the gospel/resurrection portion, you listed 1 Corinthians 5:1-6. Undoubtedly, a 1 was omitted in the chapter. It should be 1 Corinthians 15:1-6. |
| Danny
October 20, '08 at 3:26 pm To William, "defacing USF's campus." Really? Defacing? How about the hundreds of ads for clubs or bars or parties you see everywhere, all the time? Do those bother you too? I highly doubt it. Or if it did, you certainly wouldn't find a website to complain about it on. |
| Jonathan
October 20, '08 at 3:38 pm I don't agree with her. Quit littering the campus; I don't like it when anyone else does it either. If someone really wants to "convert" to Christianity then they can go to a church or listen to Brother Micah. My problems with religion aside, you went about this in an entirely misleading way. I thought to myself "Who the f*** is Quina?" But I honestly think putting up "Do you agree with Quina?" was an assbackward way of proselytizing. At least Brother Micah is honest with his misguided beliefs. |
| Mark
October 20, '08 at 3:59 pm I find it sad that some of the same people keep coming back to post negative garbage on here every few hours. You complain about spamming your campus yet you spam this discussion board. I smell hypocrite! |
| Jonathan
October 20, '08 at 4:01 pm It's amazing what people will do to suppress different thoughts. I've seen two of "William"'s comments deleted because they referred to an alternative. If you are so sure that Quina is correct then why would it matter if someone talked about an Atheist organization on campus? Or even better...you say you wish to have open discourse and yet you keep deleting the opposing side. |
| Admin
October 20, '08 at 4:08 pm This discussion is intended for people to post why or why not they agree with quina, Not promote their own club, society, groups. Nothing is being supressed, but off-topic posts will be removed. We're all adults, let's act like adults. |
| Allison
October 20, '08 at 4:20 pm I agree with Quina. =) I think it's great that she was chosen as a spokes person to do what the Lord has commanded us all to do... to share the Truth with others! Praise the Lord! And as far as people who think she or others are pushing their beliefs on y'all.... we're simply handing you a gift of eternal life that God has given... it's up to you to take it or turn- and it is NOT up to us to judge you for that, but to love you regardless. So, I hope that you can accept our belief, even if you don't agree. Thank you Quina for being a wonderful, obedient servant for the Lord! |
| Katy
October 20, '08 at 4:30 pm Quina, as I said earlier-- you are awesome. Thank you for being such a true believer and role model for us all. As for everyone else, thanks for actually taking the time to come to this website, to find the discussion board, and to share your beliefs with us. |
| Jennifer Collette
October 20, '08 at 5:07 pm I most definitely agree with Quina! Thank you so much for sharing your life with us. I pray that God will use your testimony and this website to further His Kingdom! Please don't let comments like the one below discourage you. That's just one more person that you can pray for. They need God's love and forgiveness just like you and I do. |
| SgtP
October 20, '08 at 7:11 pm Seems that the controversy is someone saying what they believe, and others don't like it. Good. Words are just words, why fear them? Why try to silence them? I remember my Drill Sgts would say the nastiest things to my platoon: "You're pathetic, you'll never make it." Yet most of us graduated training, because those words cannot harm us. We saw what they were trying to do - simply motivate us, push us harder to get to the finish line. Simply listen...don't worry about the campus being spammed; chalk is easy to clean. Or religious people spreading their message; they won't stop regardless of what anyone would prefer. And, sadly, given time, most of us will not remember what happened this week at USF. But if you do remember, try to listen, try to avoid being offended by simple words, because, if you can move past the emotional, temporal offense, you may be motivated to pursue something - or Someone - greater, whether it's a Drill Sgt cursing at you to march harder, or a college student desiring to share a joy in her heart for her loving Savior and Lord, the only worthy mediator between the human race and God, Jesus the Christ. |
| William
October 20, '08 at 7:16 pm To Mark, You smell a hypocrite? Use your brain, Mark. Most of the time, hypocrisy is often the best offense against hypocrites. Having to come back and delete posts time and time again is less arduous than the unfounded curiosity perpetuated by the deceptive ambiguity in your advertisements that USF's tens of thousands of students have to deal with. |
| heather
October 20, '08 at 8:08 pm yes I do agree. This is so appropriate for americans all over! I believe that we all have felt this way at one time.I know I did before I became a Christian. |
| c
October 20, '08 at 8:16 pm If I see another "do you agree with quina?" spam on my campus, I am going to blow a gasket! It's cool if you want to believe what you believe, but it doesn't mean everyone has to see your name written on every possible space on the campus. It is really annoying! |
| Lydia
October 20, '08 at 9:44 pm Ok Quina, you've had your fifteen minutes. Now run along back to the Baptist Student Center. |
| Baby
October 20, '08 at 9:48 pm Quina, If the Bible is the infallible, inerrant word of God, and God said women are the property of men, then why the **** aren't you in the kitchen making me a chicken casserole? Love ya beau! |
| Nicholas Zynko
October 20, '08 at 10:03 pm In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. God is dead. -----Frederick Nietzsche |
| anonymous2
October 20, '08 at 10:36 pm SgtP, Thanks, good point. |
| Mike
October 20, '08 at 10:41 pm Question to all: Would you choose hell to send all the people of the world to heaven? completely hypothetical so dont tell me it will never happen or anything like that. just answer honestly |
| Xavier
October 20, '08 at 11:01 pm Quina, I have been a christian my entire life, I am not perfect by any means and still struggle to maintain a good relationship with God but it's not easy...and that's the point. A student especially a college student is not gonna care about Jesus and what he did for us regardless of how miserable their life has been. I know this because in my life as a christian I myself have had feelings of indifference towards this relationship and knowing I was wrong repented.The average person does not understand that emotions are the result of a certain mentality that a person has, thus they can be wrong...a lot. Why do i say this? because the generation of today is different and they need to be mentored and led into the grace of God so that they can experience Him first hand. Prayers on the street and other things like that don't always work, there's a lack of faith on behalf of the person and other factors...there too many thing to discuss in this blog to give the full message. There's a right way and a wrong way to do things... and this method that you have adopted has caused mass hysteria especially by the advocating of someone's idea. If you know that God has called you to do this you should find someone to help you in the process of spreading the word and your purpose...it will be very difficult in many ways, but not impossible,and if your not don't.God continually through out scriptures calls to man to search for wisdom and knowledge, therefore things should always be done correctly or not done at all. Please do not get offended just criticism to build up...and always remember the word of God. |
| Luda
October 20, '08 at 11:56 pm I am glad you are sharing the truth with others. |
| Romans 12:2
October 21, '08 at 12:07 am Stay strong in Christ my sister. People will mock you as they mocked Jesus in his time but eventually their eyes will be opened when its time for them to. And as far as their negativity towards a Father who loves his gentile children by sacraficing his own son...well all we can do is PRAY for them !!! |
| adrian
October 21, '08 at 1:15 am So why should I join the Quina club? |
| Jonathan
October 21, '08 at 1:31 am Where's the admin when someone posts links? Why is it that someone can say "look at my site for God" while I can't say to look at the alternative? Biased individuals at the helm. :) |
| Stop & Think Unbelievers.
October 21, '08 at 6:03 am Okay, check this out. I still don't understand why people say that this campaign is "forcing" Christian beliefs onto people. Last time I checked, the same ones that are saying this are the same ones that took their fingers, typed in the website, used their eyes to read what it was all about, and decided to comment! No one was holding a gun to your head MAKING you check out the website. And no one is MAKING you believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to have a relationship with God. If reading a paragraph or two really makes you feel like you were "tricked" then you obviously have nothing better in your life to do than feel pity and sorrow for yourself. Just like you share your beliefs about certain things you are passionate about, we Christians can do the same. You decide to take it or leave it. The only reason why unbelievers get so upset and feel the need to bash everything that has to do with Jesus is because you must feel offended by your own sin and you KNOW that God is there. If you were truly Atheist, there would be no need for you to get so upset and fired up about this and to try and disprove a GOD that you SUPPOSEDLY DON'T BELIEVE IN! It doesn't make any sense to me. Secondly, for those who have seemed to miss the message by a long shot, this website is not about promoting Quina. It's about promoting Jesus Christ. You would know that if you read her testimony and what she believes. It is saturated with Jesus Christ getting the glory, not herself. Thirdly, for those who are complaining about this campaign and a simple website: I bet you wouldn't be complaining if it were talking about going to the club this weekend, getting drunk, or 101 different sexual positions. Noooooo, you would be perfectly fine with it, wouldn't you? It's only when someone expresses the idea of HOLINESS that you freak out and have a heart attack. Is holiness that hard of a concept for you to grasp? Is living according to what pleases the God that created you really something that you cannot comprehend? Is submitting to Jesus Christ, the One who died for YOUR SINS even though he was PERFECT and HOLY, something that you can't wrap your mind around? By the way, you're not rejecting Quina because that's not what this is about. YOU ARE ULTIMATELY REJECTING JESUS CHRIST. AND GOD WILL DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDINGLY. |
| Michael
October 21, '08 at 8:16 am I've had enough of this... now there are dozens of "I agree" messages with the names Dawkins, Epicurus and many others... Frankly your message is not the problem.. but the way that you and your friends coated our walkways with constant vague messages is shameful... and it's not because of the messages.. it's because you didn't at least give a hint to what it is about and in the end you wasted the time of many... if you gave a hint like "I agree with Quina about (blank)" then you wouldn't have incited anger and annoyance with the student body of USF and we wouldn't have gotten even more chalking in retaliation to your endless amount of vague shady messages... I'm trying to be adult here and tell you where you went wrong and what you can do to help your cause... frankly I don't care about your message.. it's not my thing... but I care that I have to deal with the constant annoyance of having to try and ignore the same message 26 times on the way to class... what I believe that you should do in order to help you cause is the publicly apologize for your chalking... not for the ACT of chalking our campus... but for the WAY that you left the message with no information of what you are trying to spread... that is what I am trying to say and I hope that you make things right with the student body that you have angered or annoyed.. and I took the liberty of trying to find an email address using the campus directory... you are not even in there.. so that leads me to believe that you don't even go to this school... so all the more reason to apologize for the way you went about doing things |
| *Sigh*
October 21, '08 at 8:27 am So would you still be having a cow if you found out that the I Agree With Quina campaign had to do with Women's Rights? Or gay rights? Or the Obama/McCain presidential election? Or how weed should be legalized? Or that Syracuse sucks? Or that we need to help stop teenage pregnancies? Or that USF is awesome? Or that there was a big Halloween party in a week? Or that she likes the color green? Would you still be having a fit if it wasn't about Jesus Christ? Highly doubtful. You would read it and move on. Even if it was a waste of 2 mins of your time, you would quickly brush it off your shoulders and not even think about making a big deal about it by telling that organization that they needed to apologize because they weren't clear in their chalking. Guaranteed your reaction would be different if it was something that had nothing to do with Jesus. And frankly, that's what this world has come to. Everyone wants to say "Amendment #1! Amendment #1!!!" But when free speech is exercised in the capacity of Christianity, everyone pretends that "Amendment #1" doesn't exist. |
| Daniel
October 21, '08 at 8:35 am I'm sick to death of all the wacko religious nuts on this campus. Would you all just leave us sane folk alone? I'd love to go just one day without being handed a flyer telling me i'm going to hell, or seeing chalk preaching jesus, or the lunatics outside the library you won't let you leave until they get done preaching scriptures down your throat. That includes you, Quina. No one non-religious cares about you and your brainwashed upbringing. It's cool that you've inspired other screwloose students to connect, even though that just makes things worse for the rest of us. No offense, but I think Quina should shut the hell up. Thanks. |
| Mocha Sunday
October 21, '08 at 10:50 am My entire life, I have always went to church; singing in the youth choir and being an usher were things that I had been involved in from a young age. I thought that I could "earn" my way into heaven by doing "good works" for God and thinking that I was a good person. The only time I opened my Bible was during Sunday morning service and I knew very little about Him and who He is. Church was then kind of mundane to me and sometimes I just didn't go. I love music and throughout high school, I listened to music that had me in total depravity, was blasphemous and not pleasing to God whatsoever. I would often pride myself in saying "well I don't do these things so it's ok if I listen to it." Fast forward a couple of years to college, which was a hard adjustment for me. I thought I was relieving stress my going out and "clubbing" every weekend and just doing everything that I wanted to do and not caring about anything else. The first semester of my freshman year I met Quina and was invited to attend weekly Bible studies with an organization trying to reach the African American community, Impact Movement. I started going to the weekly Bible studies and soon realized that I was going just to be able to say that I was going to a Bible study. I was not going to learn about God, but rather add it to my list of "good things". After several months of Bible study I still was doing what I wanted and still thinking I could earn brownie points with God by just going to Bible study. To be honest, I was not trying to learn more about God and who He is, and only opened my Bible during Bible study. One Sunday during my second semester in school in April, I was invited to a church and decided to go. I did not expect anything but a regular church service but this Sunday was different from the others. In the middle of the service God laid it on my heart to begin to walk with him and change my life and repent. Since then, my life has not been the same. Before giving my life to God I always felt anxiety and loneliness and that I had no one to turn to. Now He is the best friend I could ever have and no matter how much I mess up and sin and through my many flaws, I know that he is there for me. When I first started walking with Him there were certain things that I would struggle with and I would get so upset with myself when I found myself sinning I was like how can He continually forgive me? He must be so upset with me. One of the first verses I memorized was 1 John1:9 and was like "wow" after all we do, he still forgives us? I thank God for how he is moving in my life and I continually pray that he continues to use me. I want to continue actively seeking him and help to bring people to Him. |
| Joe the plumber
October 21, '08 at 11:08 am "YOU ARE ULTIMATELY REJECTING JESUS CHRIST. AND GOD WILL DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDINGLY. " Tisk, tisk. What will you tell to Zeus when he asks why you didn't worship him? What's that, you don't belief in Zeus? Just a bunch of mythology? Doesn't actually exist?! Well how are you so sure, you little heathen?? |
| D
October 21, '08 at 11:41 am Hey Quina. I just want to say that what you are doing is not only wonderful, but its inspiring. You took the leadership, and initiative to stand up for your faith and belief in Christ. I commend you. Don't be discouraged because of the ignorance that these people are saying. I agree that everyone has to find Christ on their own. However, there has to be someone that has to deliver that message and you are doing that.Its sad and even hurtful to see people denounce God like this. Its not about religion but a relationship with God. In Romans 8 it says that without works it is impossible to please God. But works and good deeds is just as dead. You have to have the faith behind it. You are truly an obedient servant to the most High. |
| victoria
October 21, '08 at 11:56 am I am a Christian, and I understand the motivations behind this campaign, but it really is making Christians look like followers of some crazy cult religion. I don't appreciate my religion being treated like the latest fad, or as being exemplified by some college girl. People talk about the Quina campaign, and most people think it sounds scary and weird. And Christianity is not scary and weird. I would appreciate it if the Christians on campus would take a more individual, less commercialized approach to Jesus Christ. |
| Jackie
October 21, '08 at 12:51 pm I'll never understand people how people can be so cruel to advocates for any religion. I think if a person is faithful to any belief, they will get where they want to go. What's life without faith? As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. God Bless you. |
| LaQuisha
October 21, '08 at 1:18 pm DAAAAAAAAMN GURL QUINA YOU CRAZY! BUT I AGREE WIT 'CHALL JESUS IS TIGHT N'ALL |
| B
October 21, '08 at 2:09 pm Quina, it's nice that you believe in God and everything, but what grants you the privilege to go around evangelizing across the campus with your nonsensical spam? People have the freedom of religion in this country, you don't need to go shoving your beliefs down everyones' throats. And I don't want to hear about how you're just doing this because "there are so many unfortunate souls who just haven't heard the word of God." Nearly everyone in America knows full well about the Christian doctrine. The shocking part is... some people just think that every word in the Bible is complete and utter crap! Please explain to me how mindlessly repeating passages from a book that somebody believes to be nonsense will ever convince them otherwise. |
| Danielle
October 21, '08 at 3:43 pm I agree with Quina. I used to hate God, then one day while I was laying in bed about to slit my wrists (again) I realized I really just hated myself. Three days later I asked Christ to save me. And he did. I spent years trying to save myself. Years. After praying for just a few moments to Christ I knew that He had done that which I could not no matter how hard I tried. He saved me; and has been blessing my life with His love ever since. |
| Michael K
October 21, '08 at 3:57 pm It's unfortunate you base your beliefs on a faith-based rather than a probabilistic model. The strongest Christian argument is based on Pascal's wager combined with Iterated Elimination of Strictly Dominated strategies, forming a Nash equilibrium of belief. May I point out that the bible is a translated work; thus, following on Chomsky's work on language acquisition your position marginalizes the destruction of operational definition incurred via translation from an original source. It follows that the original source may be true, but differing connotations have resulted in a changed Wittgensteinian analysis of the data. Thus, the bible suffers from a shift in meaning via Chomsky-based changes in language acquisition and connotation. Further, your metaphysics are shaky. I've yet to see a rational explanation of how your method maximizes my payoff function; thus, your argument needs a stronger metaphysical base (Pascal's Wager?) Finally, absolute certainty cannot be empirically reached because of the infinite tails of the standard normal distribution. Thus, your empirical absolute certainty in the bible is not statistically sound. I further argue that even in mathematics absolute certainty can be questionable (see the debate that ensued over allegations of individuals falsely claiming errors in the proof of Poincare's conjecture). Thus, your absolute certainty in religion cannot be empirically based, and Cartesian logic poses a threat to your rational base (first 2 meditations only). Finally, check a logic book. Revelation can only serve as a basis for certainty for the one who directly experienced it. |
| Alison
October 21, '08 at 4:10 pm I am glad that you have had some personal revelation, but was it your goal to turn yourself into a saint? The "Do You agree with Quina?" group has basically become a cult following, and what gives you the right to paint the campus with your ideals when you are no different than every other Christian? Millions of people have come to know God, but they don't flaunt their new found faith an wear it around like a crown. You are no better than anyone else, and using your new revelation to gain status and friends is wrong, since it was the very thing that made you feel empty in the first place. |
| Ben-Jamin`
October 21, '08 at 4:13 pm Muhammed, you have the most beautiful feet ever! I mean, they are just gorgeous! (He-He) I love that you're sparking things up on your campus! I know you're busy this week, but I'd love to hear how things are going or how they went. LOVE YOU!! Stay encouraged. :) ROMANS 10:15 |
| Cindy
October 21, '08 at 4:35 pm I noticed that a lot of people are complaining about the chalking that went on around the campus, which I don't understand because dozens of organizations do the same thing. People are also saying that they feel "tricked," because when they found out about Quina, it was just another "crazy evangelist." I don't understand this. It's not like you were lured in with a cookie. You took the initiative to find out who Quina was, no one shoved pamphlets at you or forced you to listen. Just because you don't like what Quina has to say doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to say it. I think it would probably help for others to know that this isn't just something Quina concocted to get attention. This is a method of advertising that Campus Crusade for Christ has used at universities around the country. And you're here, so it WORKED. Like it or not, you can't deny that it's effective. Quina's story isn't just about religion or faith, it's about sharing with others a new way to live to better yourself and your community through a positive and healthy outlook on life. I can't find anywhere on this site where she claims her religion is "superior" or that this is in any way a "club" or "cult." I'm sad to say that I think the public has a problem with this whole event mainly because it deals with religion. If Quina was pro-choice or for gay marriage, I doubt there would be so many objections. The best of luck to you, Quina! |
| Ricky
October 21, '08 at 4:42 pm Yes, this is a country where we have freedom of religion. We also have freedom of speech. I do agree with Quina and having a relationship with Christ is the most important thing in my life. We all talk about the things that are important to us. Nobody is saying that you are not allowed to talk about the things that you want to talk about. Nobody is saying that you can't believe what you want to believe. We are just claiming Christ as the most important thing in our lives and want to share that with others. "I agree with Quina" is not a "campaign" promoting Quina herself, but what she believes in and is a way for us to spark more conversations about what we think is important. And obviously it is working because the people who are opposed to it are still talking about it, whether they agree with it or not. Yes, you have the free will to believe what you want. And you may not want to be "exposed" to what we are promoting, but you should realize that even your protests are fulfillments of scripture. The Bible states that as long as we share the Truth, others will oppose what we are claiming. If we are creating opposition, then we are doing something right. If we go through our lives with no opposition whatsoever, we should think about what we're doing wrong. Just something to think about. |
| Britt
October 21, '08 at 4:45 pm Just so people know...the point behind the chalking & fliers was merely to get people to ask, "Who is Quina & what does she believe?" last week. Now, this week, we are telling people who Quina is & what she beleives, which has been the plan all along. There was no intention of promoting something & never telling you what it was about. It was about sparking curiosity, which it has clearly done. Also, It is not about Quina. She is just the student that was willing to be used. The whole desire of this thing is just to get students talking about spiritual things. We aren't trying to shove religion down your throat. We actually aren't religious people at all. We just want to hear what people believe. So thanks for those of you who are sharing your thoughts. Whether you agree or disagree, we appreciate your willingness to share. |
| Al
October 21, '08 at 5:05 pm Agree with Quina? Only if you believe in using religion to get popular. Seriously I don't have to agree with you in order to believe in Jesus. You're like the unnecessary middle man. |
| Les
October 21, '08 at 6:08 pm I have a relationship with Jesus and I believe that this is wrong. Promoting oneself through having a relationship with Jesus Christ is wrong. Maybe if you had written Got Jesus? or some catchy saying about relationships with Jesus this would be a campaign worth standing by, but the fact is that YOUR name is all over campus not HIS. Relationships with Jesus are not based on YOU they are based on HIM so get over yourself. |
| Tom
October 21, '08 at 6:13 pm I'd like to respond to two of the last few posts. I'm also going to address what seems to be the main complaint of many of the negative messages on here. Please understand that my attempt is not to persuade any of you with my arguments. I do not expect to change your minds. But I do hope that you will at least truly think about these things. 1st - Michael K, You can use all the sophisticated language you want. And you can base it all off man's best "logical" reasoning. But have you stopped to consider that the God we believe in is beyond man's understanding. I agree it would be foolish to believe something that did not have sufficient proof or if it was not logical. But the Bible does have sufficient proof. And the belief is logical. Faith is a huge element, but it is well-grounded. By the sounds of your argument you place your faith in man's reasoning. If you're honest about it, I truly believe that you would have to admit that it all still comes down to faith. Just like you said, even math comes down to faith. In the end, if you haven't, I would encourage you to do some unbiased research on the Bible. And I don't mean watch a History Channel documentary on the corruption of the Roman Catholic church. A personal relationship with God is not religion. This has nothing to do with "religion." 2. Alison, I think, rather I know, you surely have a misconception of Quina and her intentions. Quina is in no way making herself into a saint. Nor is she flaunting anything or "trying to make friends." The "I agree with Quina" campaign is simply a creative attempt to get people's attention and direct them to a website and/or speech where they can hear about a personal relationship with God. Quina happens to be a person with a unique name who is strong in her faith and excited to share it with others. It is nothing she is bragging about. It's not even about her or anything she has done. It's about God and what he has done, and this is just our creative attempt to strike the interest of as many people as possible. 3. To the general negative complaints on here, It seems the most common complaint is that we are "spamming" the campus and that we are "misleading" people into hearing about God. If that's what you think, that's fine. But consider the following: We can chalk our campus up and down with messages about politics, people telling us who to vote for; messages about the homecoming queen; messages telling us to smoke weed all day, every day, and all night; something about 101 different sex positions, etc. But it's not OK to talk about something so much more important? Also, if you feel mislead, sorry. That wasn't our intention. But what if we had written, "Do you agree with the Bible?" Or "Do you want to know about Christ?" Or "Do you have a personal relationship with God?" Would many of you not then say that we are offensively shoving the name of God/Christ/the Bible in your face? Would you not then argue that we can make a resource to information about God available without shoving it in your face? Well, that’s what we just tried to do. The fact of the matter is, many would have a problem with any tactic involving God. If this campaign was about Daoism, Hinduism, or Monopoly addicts anonymous, I am sure it would be less offensive. If we have offended you by our tactics, speaking for myself, I apologize although I do not regret it. But if it is the message that offends you, I do not apologize. Our goal is to give you the opportunity to hear what it means to have a personal relationship with the loving, saving God. The message of God is love. You may wonder, if God was so loving, He wouldn't let [blank] happen. Or if God loved us so much, we wouldn't be judged. But I assure you that if you really care about the answers to those statements and seek to know God, you will find that it is about God’s grace, not our shortcomings nor our problems. |
| AndrewT
October 21, '08 at 6:55 pm Well, I do agree with most of what you have on the "What Quina Believes" tab, except the part about an infallible bible. Because the bible was written by man, it cannot be infallible. It may be inspired by the One True Lord, but because humans held the pen, there are -- NOT mistakes, but a certain amount of fallibility. However, I agree the the MESSAGE is what's important. It's just that, you can't take the shadowy reflection of perfection, and call it perfect, because that would lessen the value of the perfection that you started with. |
| GLSP
October 21, '08 at 7:30 pm I agree with Quina At first, I was a little uncertain behind the motivation behind the campaign. People (Christians and not) have argued as to whether it was a "gimmick" or promoting one person instead of a message. I looked at the website and saw that the motives were true and the message sound. I do think Christians should take an individual approach as Christ did so many times but sometimes it takes a big movement (for example, a sermon on the mount or a day of Pentecost) for things to happen. If anything this has unified the Body of Christ instead of separating into so many different Christian clubs. It has also stirred a lot of conversation about what people believe. Today, I wore my shirt because I stand behind a fellow sisters message. To those who agree with Quina, I encourage you to put your walk where your talk is. To those who don't I ask you to ask yourself if you are willing to live and die with what you believe. If you are right then we all have nothing to lose and in the end it's all going to be ok. If not then I guess we all had our choices to make...live with no regrets. But if you have any doubts, just take a look at what the Bible, really says, not what people tell you it says and then make up your mind. To Quina: Remember Galations 1:10 "Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ." You are indeed a servant, Thank you |
| Jared
October 21, '08 at 8:01 pm I do not agree with Quina. I'm tired of the dominant religion in this country acting like its being persecuted. There's a ridiculous amount of christian groups on campus, why is what you're doing necessary? Most people at this school are christian; I don't see how its so special that you are. I don't see the poit in what you're trying to do. We get enough preachers on campus. Why are you trying to change everybody? This school is prided on its diversity, why do you want to take that away? I'm pretty disgusted every time I see Quina's name on the sidewalk. |
| Zell Hall
October 21, '08 at 8:30 pm I strongly disagree with this bull**** (no pun intended) |
| Danny
October 21, '08 at 9:39 pm To Jared, I'm sorry but you're terribly wrong about most students being christians. Just look at this page, there are TONS of people who are outraged at this idea. Didn't you say usf prides itself in diversity? What's diversity if most students are christians? Lemme tell ya, there are THOUSANDS fewer students that are part of christian organization than there are students that aren't. |
| Mike J
October 21, '08 at 9:47 pm I do not agree but... I spoke with a gentlemen outside side of Cooper Hall today and told him it was nice to see someone that was for something. Most of the scoffers and hecklers around just had beliefs against things. Hopefully we will mature out of the finger pointing society we are becoming and each find a cause of our own to fight for. Good job being proactive. |
| Nadia
October 21, '08 at 10:02 pm To all those who disagree with Quina. Just so you know. Christ knew that you would say all those horrible things about Him and His will while He was being beaten and dying on the cross for YOUR sins. But He did it anyway, because He loves you, and still thought you should have a chance of eternal life. And when your ready to believe, he's going to forget all those things you said about Him and accept you into His kingdom.....because He still LOVES YOU!!! |
| The Batman
October 21, '08 at 10:07 pm "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression" (1 Timothy 2:11-14). "And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her" (Ecclesiastes 7:26). Oh, but that's the Old Testament, right? That doesn't matter, amirite? "The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35) "Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished" (Matthew 5:18). |
| John O
October 21, '08 at 10:18 pm Many of you have a problem with religion which no one can say is not valid, and many wars and shameful things have been done in the name of it. Including Christianity. The thing we fail to do is go back to the source of who Christ was. Its not about religion Christ never taught that and would be ashamed of what many Christians have made it out to be. You can't hide behind your hatred of what happened in the past because its not a valid excuse when you haven't ever taken the time out to learn who and What Jesus Christ is and stands for. If you want to learn about him read a short book the Gospel of John the make you decision. Christ taught to serve other before yourself. He taught forgiveness. The most important things were to love God and your neighbor above all else. Find out who Christ really is then make your decision but don't make one out of ignorance. |
| Will W
October 21, '08 at 10:30 pm Christianity, like all religions, is nothing but a fairy tail that has survived not because it is more valid than the Roman gods, but because its followers had guns. These childish beliefs have been given creadence in out society for far too long. Jesus may have said that one day his followers would be mocked, but this is not because he had the power of prophecy, or that he was the son of god. He simply realized long before Thomas Pain that he followers were sheep. |
| Rita Scott
October 21, '08 at 10:58 pm I agree with Quina because she used the powerful name of Jesus Christ in her statement of faith. Jesus is the only way to God, and that exclusivity is the reason that we tell about our faith. Christianity in practice is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ - separating it from all other "religions." |
| Tiff
October 21, '08 at 11:24 pm Quina!!! Hey girl!!! God is so incredibly beautiful in your life!! Praise God for all of the glory that He is already receiving because of your obedience to Him! He is using you in a mighty way! I'm praying for you that God continues to use you in the lives of other students here at school. For all of you that think this is just absolutely appalling,we don't expect for everybody to agree with Quina or to believe the same thing we believe,which is totally cool.we're not trying to make you believe anything!! I obviously agree w/ Quina, but you totally don't have to. that why it was a question, "do you agree with Quina? it was in no way, "you must agree with Quina!" For all of you annoyed at the chalk, don't look down when you walk...especially if you've already seen it a million times, just stop looking.not that hard guys. For you other Christians that believe we are going about this the wrong way, we're just doing what the Lord has called are believers to do and that is to share the good news of Christ. Quina is not ashamed of sharing, and why should she be? Jesus dies to save us from our sins!!! How selfish of us not to be making everyone aware of this good news that provides ultimate peace and joy! Not everybody has to accept it but at least we're not keeping it to ourselves! "How beautiful are the feet of those that bring good news, proclaiming peace and my salvation" Isaiah 52:7 Quina, you have got some beautiful feet girl!! |
| John Pickering
October 21, '08 at 11:36 pm I agree with Quina. Hands down. It's the truth. |
| Harry
October 22, '08 at 12:02 am "Seed time... Progression time... Harvest time!" As much as you were surprised by what kind of story this is... there is a reason why you actually saw the signs on campus, the t-shirt, and actually taking your own effort to read and post this. You don't have to believe it now, perhaps, one day, you will understand why the seed was sowed in your life. I admire Quina for taking a stand, willing to put herself out and maybe make a difference in someone's life. I am amazed at this beautiful creation, if there is 1% chance that maybe what she said is true... why not open your mind and believe there is a creator? The purpose of her doing is to love, to share, and to encourage. She has not force anything or condemn any wrong doing. She believe something much bigger than that. |
| becky
October 22, '08 at 1:30 am I love how riled up everyone is getting! Finally some excitement and good points on both sides! Ahh beliefs... Well if people didn't believe what they believed then there would be no point in believing it right? Sadly what's the truth is the truth and in the end only one side is going to be right! Do I agree with Quina? Let's just say (no offense to any one, seriously this is just my belief and if you think I am going to be quiet then you are crazy) that I know I am right. God Bless |
| Ryan
October 22, '08 at 2:47 am Why is it necessary for you to broadcast the current dominant religious beliefs of a majority of the world through you name via a public campus? "I agree with Quina" is pointless; you have your beliefs, (which are shared by countless other people who carry on satisfying what they believe God asks of them without employing students to tag entire schools with your name) but using common space to advertise your beliefs is selfish, childish, and disrespectful. By all means associate and grow with those who agree with you; do not waste students' time by insisting that your views are THE views. |
| Cbrett
October 22, '08 at 4:34 am I do not agree with Quina. I agree with what she stands for though. I am a follower of Jesus Christ, my lord and savior but this has gotten carried away. The word is the truth so I will be attending to listen to what she has to say. |
| Annoyed
October 22, '08 at 7:47 am I think you're a nutcase and you need to quit writing all over USF. I guess we need to start a "get Quina kicked out of USF" movement. |
| E
October 22, '08 at 8:09 am I think it's funny how people are complaining so much about this. IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT QUIT READING THE SIDEWALK..!! why get all bent out of shape over something written in chalk? For those wondering why it doesn't say i agree with god etc (she is not trying to get popular) simply more people will inquire about it and be more curious to hear her testimony! Simply put..quit having a fit over a writing on the sidewalk..goodness |
| Serge
October 22, '08 at 10:28 am Let me make sure I get this straight...It took you about 18-20 some years to find Jesus, and now that you've found him, you're making an effort to make this discovery all about YOU in any way possible by plastering an entire campus with flyers and chalk asking if we "agree with Quina?" I may be a little off base here, but isn't that kind of defeating the purpose and sort of going against one or two of the 10 Commandments or something? |
| Peeved.
October 22, '08 at 11:42 am I'd like my campus back, thanks. This campaign shows closed-mindedness and lack of tolerance. I don't agree with you, and I think that you are using religion for attention to validate your own faith. Faith is a personal thing for everyone, and to think that you can just go and change someone's beliefs is ridiculous. The notion that you think you need to change people's beliefs is even *more* ridiculous. The bible may preach peace and love, but what about all the parts of it that don't? You conveniently left those bits out, didn't you? I'm offended that you can't just keep your mouth shut and believe as you will and leave us all ALONE, especially on a public campus in a country where freedom of beliefs is a foundation. I agree that you have the freedom to say whatever you want, but I also believe that our campus is a public and secular institution and needs to stay that way. If you want to talk about God on a campus, go to a Christian school. I came here for a math degree. |
| Mark
October 22, '08 at 11:48 am ^ You sound pretty close minded to me. Pot, meet kettle! |
| Serge
October 22, '08 at 12:02 pm Mark... Where, exactly, is he/she being close minded? He/she doesn't say anything about not having faith, nor does he/she state that people don't have the right to believe what they want. From what I can tell, he/she is asking to not have religion stuffed down their throat in a form of self righteousness that has taken up every bulletin board and sidewalk on campus, to where you can't ignore it even if you wanted to. Oh, and nice work on the "Pot, meet kettle!" comment. I'm sure no one has thought about expressing that cliche in such an advanced and humorous way. I hope you get to read this before it gets deleted. |
| Raquel R.
October 22, '08 at 12:06 pm I think this whole thing has gotten out of hand. people who are for quina and agaisnt both present good arguments, and i'll admit when i first started seeing the "do you agree with quina" writings on the sidewalk i was curious. i wasnt angry because other clubs do things like that, people who ran for homecominng did it so whats the big deal? also after finding out what the whole thing is really about every indivual has the choice to believe or not to believe, support or not support. and after reading some of the other posts-this situation is obviously way out of hand. |
| truth
October 22, '08 at 12:21 pm What good could possibly come from an institution which usurps the minds of potentially intelligent people through the use of fear? |
| blake
October 22, '08 at 12:22 pm I do not agree with Quina. Yes, go ahead and write your chalk messages. I can't get annoyed about it because Quina is not the only person that does it. But seriously, 2 billion people in this world are Christian. Isn't that enough? As an agnostic who is throughlt disgusted by ALL organized religion, I'm sick of people shovin their religion down my throat. Religion is personal. Keep it to yourself. |
| kay
October 22, '08 at 12:43 pm "I came here for a math degree." Then don't look down at the sidewalk and go read your math book. and as far as people saying i'd like MY campus back and this is MY.and OUR etc. USF belongs to NONE of ya'll. Quina has permission from the people in charge to write what she writes..therefore it's there campus and she got there approval |
| Mikayla
October 22, '08 at 1:29 pm Being a Christian is not so much a religion, but a relationship with God. To know that I am never alone, and never will be is so amazing. God is in control and we are too blessed to be stressed! Oh, and we don't see our religion as superior, we just know that without God, what would this life be worth? Everything that has happened on this earth is by chance? Yeah, prove that to me and I will believe it! Every historical occurence in the Bible has yet to be disproven. |
| kia
October 22, '08 at 2:17 pm I don't agree with Quina. I think that all you are doing is diminishing the entire purpose or religion. It would be fine if you and your following although lately the word cult may be appropriate wanted to have small bible studies or even create your own church here on campus. But to parade yourself and you ideas around as if you are a prophet or the Messiah himself is just insane. A personal relationship with the God he or she believes in is personal. You have no to right to start some new Christian crusade for your own personal gain. Although it may be refreshing to see people with faith and practicing their religion openly and freely, you have become just as crazy as the guy who stands outside of Cooper. |
| David
October 22, '08 at 2:42 pm As a Scientologist, I disagree with Quina. All modern religious beliefs are a product of the restimulated R6 implant, put into every Thetan on Teegeeack during Incident II. "There was no Christ" -L. Ron Hubbard, Class VIII Auditor Lectures |
| Raquel R.
October 22, '08 at 3:11 pm this message is for David who posted the most retarted s##t i have ever seen. 1st. off i have no problem with you just because you dont agree with quina. thats a personal choice. however i do have a problem when you tell me that because i practice christianity, which is a form of organized religion, that i'm suffering from an implant on an alien planet. let me clue you in on something, the founder or creator of your religion was a SCIENCE FICTION WRITER!!! as in everything he says is a fabrication, it is NOT real. so think about that. also id like to point out that your name "David" came from the bible. So if i were you, mr. scientology is the way, id change my name to Thezar from Teegano mr i have theetans. thankyou for your time, please feel free to respond. |
| wow
October 22, '08 at 4:03 pm i dont think that the supporters of this foolishness understand most people's problem with quina and her "movement" its not the fact that she is christian its the fact that she is promoting herself along with the message even the best pastors ministers preachers popes holy man whatever you want to call them all say do see me see the god in me naw not this random person quina personally i dont find too many people on here sayin that they are not christians and dont believe in god its really freaking simply if you have a testimony stand up and share it who knows someone might want to pray with you for you and there you have it a fellowship who cares about her writing on the sidewalk lets talk about her propaganda and self exploitation what she is doing is pimpin out the message and values she claims to have by all means i believe in god and my relationship with him is personal i would never go around sayin look what my god has done for me and he could do it for you too these crazy ppl following her need to pick up whatever bible they read and get close to the real truth following behind a man a flawed crazy power hunger attention needin man just amazes me and yeah she got my attention long enough for me to be disgusted and take a few mins outta my day to post a comment but does that prove a point? |
| Debbie
October 22, '08 at 4:27 pm Dear Quina, It's been weeks and weeks since I began to notice the campus ground being spammed with your name on it. I've checked your website out, and honestly it has distraught me. You say it's not about politics yet these slogans came in a convenient time. Well let me tell you about myself and how I grew up since you tried to share that with the whole student body. I was born in Peru and became a citizen of the US at 3 months old (partially because terrorism was huge in Peru). I was raised Catholic my whole life. I was in a private school since 3rd grade until my senior year. I had so much religion around me, telling me what to do and how to live my life. But I felt empty. In high school I knew I didn't fit in that well because although people pretended they cared about each other, I saw people doing the opposite. I saw people supporting the resistance to giving rights to homosexuals, and treating them like animals. I saw people supporting this War on Terror, which so far has claimed over a million civilians, as in noncombatants, innocent people; women, men and children. I felt empty because Christ didn't seem real to me. I see so many starving children when I visit Peru and I felt that Christ is letting them die. I felt trapped in high school because the chapel seemed fake to me. I don't know if it was my fellow classmate lecturing us on how we need to treat people like Jesus ( a week after that same person made fun of me in gym because it was raining and I had a white t shirt on.and instead of letting me know, she/he let everyone else know). Right now I laugh about it, but then I was so embarrassed. I was so messed up two years and half ago. I did not know if what I was doing was my choice or if it was because god told me to do it. Am I a moral person? Or did my actions happen because I wanted to get into heaven? I was so depressed because I had my heart broken and was looking for comfort in all the wrong places. But I had a few friends who thought differently and I started to read and read about religions and realized every religion was similar. I then decided to let go of religion and I got this sense of freedom, the freedom of understanding that I was in control of my life, not an imaginary super being. I felt free, still feel free. I have many friends who are Christians and it works for them. I respect their decisions. I'm not opposing to you writing your beliefs on the ground. That would be hypocritical considering I chalk myself. I am against to the fact that almost all opposing statement against you Quina were just erased like their opinions didn't matter (I didn't chalk those statements but I agree with them). I was upset because you refused to even engage in a dialogue. You just erased them. Most Christians believe that they are discriminated against in this country, despite being the vast majority of the population. Suffice it to say, I believe you are wrong. Atheists, Muslims, and other religions are treated with blatant disrespect in this country and your reasoning is the reason why. This is the problem with Florida; you are the problem with Florida, you seem to think that just because you believe in something it means EVERYONE has to believe in what you believe in. And the real world doesn't work like that. Hopefully you will grow up and start realizing that. Thanks, Debbie Ojeda |
| Isabella
October 22, '08 at 4:52 pm The World is divided into armed camps ready to commit genocide just because we can't agree on whose fairy tales to believe. In the end, Religion will kill us all. -- Ed Krebs |
| Rocky D. Bull
October 22, '08 at 4:57 pm Yeh... No need to spam usf. But thanks to you we had that much more to talk about at dinner. "whos quina and why does she want my body". Typical christian.... Maybe you should go join "Jesus Guy" and team up to create a world where everyone goes to hell :D! |
| Gregory P
October 22, '08 at 6:02 pm Yo to all these internet bullies that think they are big and bad on the INTERNET calling quina names that is not nessacary. All the people who put derogatory negative comments about quina please call me up at ***-***-**** and we can get together and talk like civilized people. coming on this sites means nothing to me than you are a coward. lets talk face to face, Marshall center or whatever. I am a Christian I have NO problem at all with people disagreeing with what The Lord Jesus Christ but using Ad Hominums to display you all arguments are not mature at all. I am a Christian saved by the blood of Jesus and not afriad to talk to any atheist, muslim, agnostic, richard dawkins WORSHIPPERS. so if you want to chop it up with my about your ideology or religion. We can have a civilized conversation and quit all these childish name calling. And about spamming USF. PEOPLE SPAM USF ALL THE TIME HAVE YOU NOTICES. WITH ALL KINDS OF TRASH. SO YOU CAN KILL THAT NOISE RIGHT NOW. please hit me up at that number or facebook, email, whatever. Im not trying to nessacarily argue with anyone im just going to bring the Gospel of Jesus Christ to you but that usually gets people angry because PEOPLE BY NATURE HATE GOD AS YOU ALL CAN SEE! My name is Gregory George Deniro Pino for those who want to find me on facebook, id love to chop it up with you, any of you. Grace and Peace. please don't post phone numbers - admin |
| Ransom
October 22, '08 at 6:04 pm I don't agree with Quina. But religious discussions are pointless because the believer possess the "well I just believe" card which ends a rational discussion. Some of the greatest philanthropists of our time have been non-believers. Religion doesn't own morals. |
| LoveIsTheAnswer
October 22, '08 at 6:10 pm I agree with Quina. And I wish that people would stop attacking this outreach effort just because they don't agree. It's a question. Do you agree? You don't have to. It's your choice. All this event intended was to create a dialogue, and spur conversations about Jesus. I have noticed that many people who don't agree have more of a problem with Christians than with Jesus himself. However, keep in mind, we are a flawed people. People have done terrible things in Jesus' name, and it was very wrong of them to do so... but don't write off Jesus because of the mistakes of his followers. We mess up sometimes, and I apologize. Really, I do. We are no saints, we are no better than anyone else. This is why we need a savior so badly. More than anything, we all need grace, forgiveness, and love-- both with God, and with each other. And that is what Jesus has to offer to everyone. |
| Marina
October 22, '08 at 6:28 pm I totally agree with you Quina!!! I know that God has a great purpose behind all this. Many people just get so intimidated when the topic about GOD is brought up.. why is that?? Well maybe bc they don't know Him like we do.. if only they would sit down and stop thinking in their own knowledge and logic, they would see the real true Loving God! I know that God is a God of LOVE AND MERCY! Without God in our lifes there is no way to heaven! Our good deeds do not get is into heaven if we don't have Jesus in our lifes. Oh and about all that chalk thing people be complaining about.. well I know they wouldn't be complaining if it said smoke mariguana just like it does in front of the library.. only that is ok to write down.. but not about God hu?? |
| Ashley
October 22, '08 at 6:30 pm I don't agree with Quina. Morality is herd instinct in the individual. -Nietzsche |
| Diana
October 22, '08 at 8:30 pm I do not agree with Quina. I respect a person's right to religious or any other beliefs; however, like much of modern Christianity, this entire campaign seems vain, self-righteous, and contrary to Christ's message. |
| Jessica
October 22, '08 at 8:49 pm God Bless all young people that have stood up for Christ. You are in my prayers Quina, good luck making the speech tommrow. |
| Defense
October 22, '08 at 8:50 pm I Agree With Quina HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH QUINA... I mean, she's a wonderful girl and the Lord has done amazing things in her life. But, the purpse behind it is not for her to gain popularity, for her to wear a crown of "I'm better than you" or anything else. It was not HER IDEA alone to "spam" the campus. I'm glad you all noticed it, that's the point- to get people noticing and talking about spiritual topics! And Christians believe they need to SHARE the Truth with everyone-- not FORCE IT on anyone. Which is what this Quina Campaign is doing- giving people the opportunity to hear the Truth, not to necessarily convert people. So, I am sorry to those of you who feel pressured into becoming a Christian or to convert. You continue to believe what you'd like... but cut Quina a break =D |
| Amanda
October 22, '08 at 8:51 pm After reading these posts, it's obvious that Satan is working hard to put doubt and discouragement in the minds of USF students. But regardless of what Satain is doing there is still only ONE TRUTH, ONE WAY, and ONE GOD. And there is always HOPE, GRACE, and COMPASSION through CHRIST. |
| Skye
October 22, '08 at 9:14 pm To each his own everyone who tries to better themselves through a relationship with God deserves a pat on the back. I personally do not believe in the holy trinity and worship God, and only God, so I guess, no, I do not agree with Quina. God bless. |
| Danny
October 22, '08 at 9:16 pm Why do people insist that this is about Quina?? Her name is in the website, preceded by "I agree with". It's not I FOLLOW QUINA. or QUINA HAS THE ANSWERS or anything close. The whole idea on "I agree with so-and-so" is to get people to say yes or no and discuss why. If you notice, quina has not posted a single time on this page(nor will she) because this site, organization, idea, and concept is not run by her. She is just a person to conceptualize the thoughts. It could've very well been "I agree with God" or "I agree with the Bible" but it allows students to relate more easily for or against when comparing with a person, rather than a physical book or deity. So whether you like the concept or not, if you're a christian, you, by default, agree with quina. Quina believes that the bible says Jesus is God's son. Do you agree? If you say "I don't like this whole thing, so I don't agree, but I'm a christian" then you clearly do not understand the point they're trying to get across. |
| Debbie
October 22, '08 at 9:27 pm You are missing the whole point of what I just said.... read my post again, and think... |
| rachel
October 22, '08 at 10:03 pm Alot of Believers are wondering why Quina's name is being used, and they think that this is being used to promote her. But here's what's going on: I can't tell you how many people I've personally talked to that don't really know what Christianity is. When they hear the word, they think of the Cooper Screamers out there telling people that God hates fags, and sports fans will burn in hell. Most people think Christianity is another set of rules to follow in order to get to God. But it's actually the opposite, it's not a religion at all. Christianity is about what Jesus did FOR US on the cross- he was the punishment for all the times we've broken rules, so that we don't have to be punished. It's about mercy, grace, and forgiveness. But most people don't know that. If we were to put, "do you agree with Jesus?" on a sidewalk, people would look at it, assume they knew what Jesus is all about (e.g. turn or burn in hell), and not have a second thought about it. But since people don't know who Quina is, they started asking questions. It opened up opportunities for Believers on campus to clarify and explain what the Gospel REALLY is. I've personally had about 6 conversations with people explaining this to them and they all respond with, "Ohhhhh.... I get it." Because they never understood it before- they just assumed they knew what Jesus is about. So basically, to answer your questions, this has given Believers the opportunity to get people to come out of their false assumptions and ask questions, so we have the chance to tell them about the God who loves them so deeply that he bled and died for them. |
| C. Fulton
October 22, '08 at 10:33 pm Yes I agree that christ is Lord and Savior and that he died for my sins. I am a strong Christian and belive that through Christ is the ONLY way to the Father, however, a problem I noticed with a lot of campus-Christian orgs. is that they try to FOCRE people to believing in Christianity. I believe in it but I accept that my friend or another might not; that's the way it is and I think you all need to accept and understand that. We all have our beliefs and shouldn't hinder the beliefs of others or try to force them into believing what we believe. |
| Danny
October 22, '08 at 10:41 pm How on earth do organizations FORCE people to believe? By handing out flyers? By making stands that say "Free Hugs" on them? By wearing t-shirts that represent the organization? By inviting others to their club? By sending them facebook invites to their group meetings? If that's forcing, I honestly can't think of how anyone would be able to get through to non-christians. We have to do something. I just really can't think of any way that any organizations force anything on anybody. |
| Shaniqua LaToya Johnson
October 22, '08 at 10:56 pm Hey gurl, its like that? Ah ahh. I agree witcha\' pleez be able a speak tomorrow I wanna see it. It be at USF right?? I go there! |
| C. Fulton
October 22, '08 at 11:00 pm Simple, by telling people what music to listen to and not to listen to. And the types of people to hang out with or not to. And if they do listen to a certain type of music or associate with certain individuals they will go to hell. Guess what, ONLY MY GOD DETERMINES THAT! So unless you are now claiming to be God, I suggest you fall back. That my friend, is FORCE. It may not be direct but it is certainly implied. I agree with Quina but please have respect for other religions. We Christians are NOT the only religion. |
| Danny
October 22, '08 at 11:12 pm C. Fulton, What organizations have you seen that tell ANYONE what music to listen to? Or what kind of people to hang out with. You'd be hardpressed to find a single group at usf(I've been part of 4 now in my years at usf) who ever imply that any non-christian should or shouldn't do anything. And if you're talking about those that stand at cooper and yell at others, you're sadly mistaken because they don't represent anybody at usf, nor christianity as a whole. |
| C. Fulton
October 22, '08 at 11:16 pm There has been two christian organizations and a plethora of individuals that proclaim those very proclamations-in the interest of privacy and respect, their names will not be listed. And no, I am not referring to that loud and belligerent man that yells in front of Cooper. If you want to know whom, you are more than welcomed to email me. I agree with the person who posted that everyone has a freedom to religion. It's a principle that this nation was founded upon and should be realized and respected. |
| winner
October 22, '08 at 11:43 pm A lot of people are accusing religion of ruining the world, or how it's going to "kill us all." Just to fill you in, religion is man made. God doesn't kill and begin wars, it's how men interprut religion that starts wars! I just hate how God always gets blamed for man's mistakes. He created us to think on our own because he wants us to find him. If we all were born thinking the same thoughts and believing the same things, how boring would the world be? Everyone one can believe what they want to believe in. As Christians we just want to show God's love and leave all the judgements up to him. We need to stop condeming and pushing people away, when we could be showing them love and trust. Telling people they are going to Hell really isn't a good attention grabber, if you know what I mean. haha. So let God do the work, while you just be a friend to everyone you meet. And I mean everyone you meet. I am a Christian and have friends of all beliefs. I don't preach to them, I don't push them away because of what they believe, I am just simply a friend. And I think that's all Quina wants to be. She doesn't want the credit, she just knew that using her certain slogan would make people wonder what it meant. It made me wonder, and if you're reading this it made you wonder too. |
| ryann
October 23, '08 at 12:08 am I don't believe in God, and I am more than okay with living my life without something or someone to follow. I listen to my own heart and mind and I try to think about other people before myself. |
| Meg
October 23, '08 at 12:21 am Everyone is free to believe what they want to believe, but I personally do not believe that there is a god. I think that Jesus was a great man who lived a couple thousand years ago, but I do not believe in an afterlife or that he is a part of some divine trinity. It is beautiful to see people truly believe in what they believe, rather than just being followers. But I personally think that even if there is a conscious creator of the universe, he/she/it does not care about us or what we do and would certainly not grant our wishes and hear our pleas. That is my philosophy, anyway. And my life goes on pretty happily without religion in it. |
| SC
October 23, '08 at 12:42 am While I don't agree with "Do you agree with Quina?" chalked on the sidewalk within inches of each other, I admire Quina's strength and bravery. I find it amusing and ironic that a number of people are saying Quina should shut up and keep her beliefs to herself, yet these same folks are the first to defend the right to free speech. I agree with you Quina. God bless. |
| Jess
October 23, '08 at 1:50 am Ok so I have way agree with Quina. I believe there is a God. I dont believe all the stuff about the bible though. The bible was created by men and contradicts itself about almost everything. Also I dont believe that God would ever condemn one of "his children" to go to hell. He made us able to make mistakes and if he didn't want us to be able to do that he would have prevented it. Why would he punish for being able to make choices that sometimes dont end so well. I just dont buy it. |
| Danny
October 23, '08 at 8:43 am Jess, You've made the same sad error that many people make that just don't know much about God and the bible. The truth is, there is a set standard and way of doing things. A way to get to heaven, A way to please God, etc. So if you are choosing to not do some or any of those things, you are sending yourself to condemnation. It's pretty clear in the bible what people should or shouldn't do. As for contradicting itself about almost everything??? that kinda threw me off bc I've read the "contradicstions" before and the few that people have any good argument on are simple number errors or errors in translation(a word being translated wrong, or something similar) there is absolutely nothing the, doctrinally, contradicts itself. |
| Michael
October 23, '08 at 8:51 am Now last time I was here I pointed out that I don't agree with the way Quina was trying to spread her message and suddenly I'm trying to repress Quina's free speech because I think it would be best that she apologize for the WAY she spread her message? I'm tired of constantly hearing everyone on this site complain about how "Oh it's a religious movement and you are trying to repress our freedom of speech" when actually that is the OPPOSITE of what I said and you should read a little closer instead of getting defensive for something that was obviously done wrong because all it does is piss people off... and if you're getting defensive about something that ISN'T what I was talking about obviously someone planned ahead to this happening... the fact of the matter is that if it was a Woman's right movement I would still be pissed off because 5-8 in strategic places on campus can do more good then 60 message that tell you NOTHING as you walk by them and they are all within 10 feet of each other... think about it on the internet... usually the companies or people who want to scam you try to give as LITTLE information as possible about themselves.. well frankly this movement is spamming our campus.. and every time I refer to you.. I mean whoever left me that message who seems to be as dense as stone... now I will repeat my self again.. I believe that Quina should take a path that involves her apologizing to everyone for the way her movement did nothing but spread the same ambiguous message across campus again and again... Take PRIDE for example.. they have about 6 WELL DONE chalkings and frankly that got a lot more of an impression on me then "Do you agree with Quina?" who is Quina and why should I care? why should I have to waste my time finding out if this is for me or not? why don't you make you message clear from the get go instead of misleading everyone with no message what so ever... you even have 3-12 papers on each bulletin board I've passed... one dead center with the same brightly colored paper is enough.. oh wait.. it has exactly 5 words on it.. "Do you agree with Quina?" oh joy what a great message... wait who is Quina? no that is not a message.. that is useless text that shows NOTHING of what you think.. stop wasting people.. you have a whole page that you could fill with text "Do you agree with Quina that Christ is Lord and a relationship with God is Possible through Jesus?" now that would be better.. and then you'll get the attention of people who want to know more about this "Come see Quina talk at 12 infront of Cooper" oh yay now I can go see more about this random message that interests me... and guess what.. it can all be put on ONE PIECE OF PAPER instead of having five words on a paper and wasting even more of it... really the way this campaign has gone is just sickeningly wasteful... and if this is how you are going to campaign something.. then you should learn a thing or two about how to spread your message clearly instead of using this veil of deception that is all I seem to see.. Sincerely, Aggravated and annoyed |
| Sarah R.
October 23, '08 at 10:18 am Okay this is a college campus right? Since when did advertisement and creative ways to express your beliefs become taboo? I think this was an inventive way to get people talking, and peak the curiosity of everyone. Quina's message is clear once you ask the simple question, "what do you believe?" If you feel tricked or bombarded with propaganda, I'd ask you to consider every detail of our culture and realize that a couple of green shirts and flyers are nothing in comparison. It's not a trick, it is a statement. |
| Fred.
October 23, '08 at 11:26 am Now that I finally know what that crap was ALL OVER CAMPUS.. I don't agree. While I appreciate Quina's spirit and her want to teach others.. it's gotten obnoxious.. honestly.. t-shirts? Enough with the chalk.. it's coming off on my shoes. |
| on looker
October 23, '08 at 1:01 pm Is the state of being a wool producing farm animal a desirable one? |
| Danny
October 23, '08 at 1:11 pm Fred, On you shoes? Honestly? And you're blaming the Quina ministry for that? Last I checked, there are a LOT of organizations that chalk the sidewalks, PLUS it's your choice to walk on the chalk. |
| Meagan
October 23, '08 at 2:41 pm Quina- I agree with you 100%. God has made some radical changes in my life, I wasnt always a believer, and I think its awesome how he never gave up on me, and loves me unconditionally. Dont be discouraged Quina, you are in all of our prayers :) |
| Anon
October 23, '08 at 3:03 pm lol |
| Al
October 23, '08 at 3:27 pm Diana October 22, '08 at 8:30 pm I do not agree with Quina. I respect a person's right to religious or any other beliefs; however, like much of modern Christianity, this entire campaign seems vain, self-righteous, and contrary to Christ's message. Honestly, that pretty much sums it up |
| Tild06
October 23, '08 at 4:12 pm I disagree with Quina. I will cite as reasoning the following: Common sense. |
| Ugh
October 23, '08 at 5:01 pm The funny thing is the majority of people posting here don't have a problem with religion. They have a problem with annoying, ambiguous statements scrawled and spammed on sidewalks as a ploy to get people to this website and to read the flyers. Just get your religion out of my face, seriously. I know what's best for me; if I planned to listen to Quina speak, I'd be there. |
| Pri
October 23, '08 at 7:33 pm I don't agree with Quina because I am not a Christian. But why are you posing your belief in Christ through a question only relating to yourself and your name? Why in your story do you proclaim Jesus died for you, when he died for all of mankind? Your love for Christ and God and the desire to help other people realize this love is respectable, but the way you do it makes your word seem forceful and ridiculous. Proclaim the religion, not yourself, you may be special in God's eyes but you are not the end all be all. And disagreeing with you does not make me evil and Satanic, because you probably disagree with my religion, but I haven't tried condemning you to hell lately. "And be ye kind one to another, tender-hearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you." ~Ephesians 4:32~ Is it really kind to forcefeed people the love for God through Jesus and say we are all sinful and have a oneway ticket to hell if we don't admit our lack of self worth? Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy. Love is never boastful, nor conceited, nor rude; It is not self-seeking, nor easily angered. It keeps no record of wrongdoing. It does not delight in evil, But rejoices in the truth. It always protects, trusts, hopes, and preserves. There is nothing love cannot face; There is no limit to its faith, hope, and endurance. In a word, there are three things that last forever: Faith, hope, and love; But the greatest of them all is love. -- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 You are boasting your love for God and Jesus, in a rude manner. And it is somewhat conceited to use your name to exclaim all of this. |
| Caitlin
October 23, '08 at 7:37 pm I think what you are doing is absolutely amazing! |
| fsd
October 23, '08 at 8:31 pm waste of life |
| kyle
October 23, '08 at 9:27 pm wow this a great site and a wonderful story of who you are and how you came to the Lord. Bravery is not enough to describe your decision to take up this ministry. many believers leave Christ at church and do not consider their worth to God and our brothers and sisters by taking up the Cross and being unashamed of our Savior Jesus Christ. It is good to see pictures of people who believe. Maybe we can all pray for Jesus to work through us to reveal who He created us to be, and how we can serve our righteous Master. Keep fighting the good fight and keep your big, beautiful smile. Let all who believe pray that the Lord can prepare hearts to recieve the message of Christ, and let us be unashamed of what we know to be true. |
| N h
October 23, '08 at 11:15 pm Religion is a copout |
| Matt B
October 23, '08 at 11:47 pm I think that it is a horrible idea to advertise your religion and try to sway a whole campus to believe in what you believe in. To begin with, the number one cause of war and conflict in this world is religion. What is the point in taking sides? We are all praying to the same figure, and if anything, he/she is looking down at us in utter shame. There is no way in knowing for sure what actually happened thousands of years ago, so if god is truly a positive figure, he will most definitely understand everyone's beliefs. As long as we are thankful to the one who put us here, he/she will appreciate our thanks. Taking sides promotes conflict, which ultimately leads to war. If I was god, I would not approve of that. |
| MC
October 24, '08 at 12:22 am Are you related to the loons hanging out in front of cooper hall? None whatsoever - admin |
| Ryan c
October 24, '08 at 2:53 am Seems to me that asking others if they agree with shows that you question your own faith. What happens if when you die that you find there is no GOD. I honestly feel sorry those people. I am not saying there isnt a GOD, because i really do like the IDEA of it. There is a reason why seperation of church and state is a federal implement. If Jesus died for all mans sins.....then why should everyone need to spend time worshiping something. I do not look down on you,or anyone, for their beliefs, but seriouly it isnt necessary to make the fact known how you ( 1 person) feels. You should have shirts made that say "Do you agree with your own beliefs." I bet the entire campus would have one on!! |
| Locke
October 24, '08 at 11:24 am Why do people love to blame the fallacies of man on God? Sure, a lot of atrocities have been done in the name of religion, but Quina is not advocating a religion, she is advocating a relationship. When you understand the difference, then there can only be Jesus. John 15:21-24 "They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin. 23He who hates me hates my Father as well. 24If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. But now they have seen these miracles, and yet they have hated both me and my Father." |
| Ricky Redwood
October 24, '08 at 12:21 pm I agree with Common Sense. I don't believe in forcing views on students through weak marketing attempts. |
| Born Jewish = I respect l
October 24, '08 at 12:30 pm Why is Jesus the right path? Why not Yahweh? Why not Buddha? Why not Zeus? Why not the Tooth Fairy, for that matter? Please stop promoting your superstitions on a campus devoted to learning. Whether or not the farfetched claims of religions are true, we should all be suspicious of them simply because they ASK us to believe. Think about it. Does your science teacher ask you to believe with all your heart that evolution is real? No (not if she is a good teacher!) She says, "here is the evidence; examine it and decide for yourself". I ask Quina: what EXTERNAL evidence (i.e. not the really confused book we call the bible, and not her own faith, and not the faith/mass delusions of millions and millions of people) can you offer for god's existence? Any more evidence than for the existence of the Tooth Fairy? If organized religion were not constantly used as the powerful tool that it is to justify war and genocide, as well as the indoctrination of innocent children into frightening and unnecessary beliefs (i.e. you are born sinful, you will burn in hell, etc.), I wouldn't bother talking about it. But religion is dangerous, and it causes more pain, justifies more evil, and sows more lies and confusion than anything else in human culture. Why should I respect someone who openly espouses this doctrine on a college campus? Go talk to people foolish enough to listen, but don't confuse true learning with what you promote, which is blind faith through coercion. Thank you, Jonathan |
| Levele
October 24, '08 at 12:52 pm To Quina, Even though I don't know you personally I definitely agree with you. I took some time to read some of the other posts. Its just so funny how people are getting worked up about "getting tricked" into coming into this website. Everyone has a choice, there is no trick. If a person decided to come to this website, it was due to their own choice. So Quina, even there is opposition, be strong and continue to have faith in the Lord. |
| Cheryl
October 24, '08 at 3:12 pm I'm not into the whole religion thing, but I can see what the idea of this is. I do find the tactics a bit much because some people would probably feel resentful that after all that curiosity it was a religious thing. However, I think that there are people out there who need religion to help them and some of them may just find that help through here. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't agree, but I still respect what you're trying to do. |
| Mike Hawk
October 24, '08 at 6:15 pm I do not agree |
| Kimberly
October 24, '08 at 7:15 pm I believe that Jesus Christ should be at the forefront of everyones life, for those seeking, for those lost, and even for those who do not believe. It speaks in the bible that we give credit to God for all things, yet here I see only Quina and her message. While she says how she found christ where is he on the T-shirt was there no room for his name too. Seek God and he will answer, do not just listen to one persons experience, and place your faith in them....it is jesus christ who died for your sins not quina, there are no images of christ anywhere on this site, it would appear from her story stated by her, that even now she seeks relationships and status by invoking the name of Jesus Christ. Please read the bible for yourself, man will disappoint you do not follow the path of one person or place your faith in her, place it in GOD. "Trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowlede him, and he will make your path straight." Proverbs 3:5 |
| Debbie
October 24, '08 at 10:57 pm Really? You guys can't come up with anything else....I respect ur believes, I don't even care what you believe and that you want to proclaim to the world. ALL I am asking is to not erase everyone else's messages aka "I don't agree with Quina" "I agree with Dawkins" etc etc. Because you don't agree with them I bet most of you just read the beginning. That's all I'm asking... There is no point in arguing when you think you are 100% correct and I think I'm 100% correct. If you are going to debate your religion debate it right. The only posts that have been deleted were those containing racial slurs or advertising other websites/organizations. Every "I don't agree with quina" post has remained intact. - Admin |
| /Z/
October 24, '08 at 11:44 pm I don't agree because I am intelligent. Religion, especially christianity, has slowly destroyed the world and made people believe in fairy tales. Thousands of years ago people had no science or explanation as to how the world worked, so they made up a god that made everything and controlled everything on earth. It's the saddest thing in the world that more that TWO THOUSAND years later these idiots still believe a superior being created everything. If you're going to believe in something ridiculous, at least make it interesting. Like scientology or... the force or something. |
| Renee
October 25, '08 at 1:58 am I find it kind of funny that a lot of people on this website think that agreeing with Quina is equivalent to joining a cult, when most of them (based on the amount of quotations) seem to agree with Nietzsche, and use him to back up their argument. Hypocritical much? |
| G. Cardona
October 25, '08 at 7:45 am Hello I go by Geo which is what you may call me. I myself am a catholic and don't mind at all that people dislike my religion for whatever reason that is your choice and your opinion. Let me just tell you something about that choice and opinion. I believe that every human has this right called free will that gives you the RIGHT not the privelege to chose what you want to believe. I understand all that agree with this girl chose to side with her and follow her. That was your choice and you had that RIGHT to choose. We were given this right to choose and you can believe you got it from wherever you want to believe. Our society should learn something called tolerance. We should learn to tolerate and live with the way other people want to live their lives. This is why we don't pray in our schools because I must respect my muslim, my jewish and my jehovah's witness brothers and sisters. One thing I personally will not demonstrate tolerance for is for groups trying to impose their will upon someone so that they may make a choice FORCED into as C.Fulton has stated. I also think that their is nothing wrong with any religious groups I just don't believe they should think that they are theo ones that are right about what is going to happen or what did happen. Everyone has the right to choose how they felt the story went. I would like to say I AGREE WITH C.Fulton don't worry lb I won't start an entire organization based on that. |
| Raptor Worshipper
October 25, '08 at 12:29 pm Raptor Jesus is the only true savior. When our lord rises again during The Velocirapture, heretics and worshippers of TyrannoSatan shall be cast underfoot and disemboweled by his holy talons. Repent your evil ways, and bow down to Raptor Jesus! He went extinct for your sins! |
| anonymous256
October 25, '08 at 10:01 pm i believe in jesus, and am thankful that i am forgiven of my sins. yes, in christianty we are told to love one another and spread the word of god. i was raped by my drug addict brother when i was 6. it took me 11 years to forgive him, but i did - and i thank christ for that. BUT, i don't love my brother. i did the ultimate sacifice, forgiving my brother for stealing my innocence, but i don't have to love him. he deserves everything that has and will come to him. my brother stole my life, i've seen things i wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy. i've had to spend many holidays visiting him in jails, prisons, rehab centers, etc. he nearly bankrupted my family and its because of him i couldn't afford to go to my dream school of which i was accepted, boston university. what i'm saying is that though i've forgiven my brother, and i wouldn't change a single thing about my life because it's made me who i am today, i don't have to be obnoxious with my love for christ. having a table in front of cooper is fine, but all the chalking and graffiti has gotten WAY out of hand. and i hope quina doesn't associate with the crazy evangelicals outside of cooper with the signs that say 'ASK ME WHY YOU'RE GOING TO HELL'. the bible teaches us not to judge, but only to love. yet here these "christians" are, calling people out on their flaws. it is known no one can be like jesus, but we don't have to be jesus to go to heaven. so, a word of advice: get a different logo color, because theirs too is neon green. if you do agree with the evangelicals and their actions, you're not a true christian. only god can judge. |
| Aja
October 25, '08 at 11:11 pm Love you sista!!!! (And, no Quina was not associated with the Cooper Hall preachers. It was sheer coincidence that their shirts were almost the exact same color as ours.) "... I humble myself as I appear at Your throne, not based on my righteousness, but Christs' merits alone... I'm cryin out for mercy as I magnify Your name, You amplify the pain of the Lamb of God who was slain. So truly, I only have one request that'll suit me, please open up my eyes to better behold His beauty." -Shai Linne "Throne of Grace" |
| Hunter
October 26, '08 at 2:24 pm What makes this different from non-denominational Christianity? I mean, it seems to me that what "Quina" believes is exactly the same as the Protestant faith. Is there a difference I am not seeing? |
| answer
October 27, '08 at 1:30 am No difference, none that I know of. Quina believes the basic tenets of Christianity. I agree with that, so therefore, I agree with Quina. |
| Hunter
October 27, '08 at 1:50 am So then why use the name "Quina?" Why not just ask if people agree with Christianity? I imagine a straightforward question would produce a greater number of responses and many more personal responses. I didn't know for the longest time what quina was, and nobody that I asked seemed to have an answer. It seems that side-stepping around the name "Christianity" has caused more confusion and posed more questions than it has answered for USF students. To me it appears as though the founders of this organization are trying to disguise their true intentions, whether or not this is true. I am only sharing all of this because I thought it would help the organization to improve its method of "evangelism." |
| Danny
October 27, '08 at 7:59 am Hunter, You've captured the essence of christianity! This isn't a cult or some crazy loon who believes something different from regular christianity. Everything she states(and believes) is directly from the bible. The whole point of "agreeing" with her is having a face to go with the faith. If it were just "I agree with the bible" it wouldn't be too interesting. But since it's quina that is the "spokesperson", you can say, yes I agree with her and whatever. |
| crunk4christ
October 28, '08 at 8:50 pm NO GOD, NO ATHEIST just a simple quote that a friend ran by me the other day. I with out a doubt agree with Quina's belief that Jesus Christ is God's human flesh and that it is possible through him to have a relationship with God in order to share God's word so all of his believers may live eternally in a peaceful heaven with our true savor. |
| Gordon Freeman
November 3, '08 at 11:36 pm I do not concur. And a college is not the place to advertise your popular superstitions. |
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